Brothers Jumpy and Robert Sr. Are the patriarchs of a group that has produced six pro football players with more on the way. Jumpy, known as Human Forklift, spent 13 seasons as an NFL defensive lineman and helped Washington win the Super Bowl in 1992.With the Kellen Winslow trade in the rear view mirror for the Mangini/Kokinis era, popular sentiment is that this is just the tip of the iceberg. The Browns are desperately looking for a rebranding, and those that are not on board will be sent elsewhere. Given that, Craig and I did a twoman round table of sorts to discuss who we feel could be next to go.

And Vick had another great showing. Yes, K2 is the starter. Yes, Vick's "happy" to be a backup.DAVID: You don't know. It depends how much he wanted to support it. But obviously it didn't happen.

Wallace has been throwing the ball well all season and he can also scramble, accounting for 250.8 yards per game. He set career highs with 31 completions and 403 yar